Recorded: July 18, 2019

James Garbutt is Denny’s partner at Garbutt + Dumas, co-owner of Steel & Oak Brewing Co and now an ultra marathon runner. The guys talk about James’ stand up career and how it led to hiking, trail running and ultramarathons, the 118 km Azores Trail Run in Portugal, the importance of physical pain and growth, establishing positive habits, getting good at failing and future plans for Jamie. // James Garbutt – Instagram: jamesgarbutt, garbuttdumas.ca // Denny Dumas – Instagram: denny.dumas, dennydumas.com // Podcast Videos can be found on YouTube